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Article Source: msnbc.comAt first, even the threat of "certain death" was not enough to persuade Bobby Taylor to flee this small town directly in the path of Hurricane Ike.
His wife, Elizabeth, had already decided to leave before police drove a dump truck through flooded streets, urging people to get out. Those who refused were told to write their names on their arms in black marker, so their bodies could be identified later.
Also...a quote...
'I believe in the man up there, God ... I believe he will take care of me'
if told to evacuate, LEAVE. there is nothing more important than LIFE.
I'm still pro=choice!
#1 - Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:27 PM EDTWhy not go and save some other poor soul from risking their life to save yours? Stupid, ignorant people and they will get what they deserve. This one is too big to try and ignore!!! May God help them for no other can.
#3 - Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:23 PM EDTI believe in God too... but this reminds me of a joke about a guy staying in his house during a flood. He refuses help from rescuers in a truck, boat and then helicopter saying "God will save me." He ends up drowning and when he gets to heaven he says "Lord I don't understand. I had faith you would save me!" God responds "Who do you think sent the truck, the boat, AND the helicopter?" I pray no rescuers will be hurt trying to help these people!
#7 - Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:24 AM EDTLoooool....You beat me to it...I heard it but it was a little different. It was a man stranded out at sea :)
So they ignored the weather reports, the police, the local mayor and the writing on the wall...and so the flood came and washed them all away. And then there was silence. As they come to, the drowned fools step in front of their maker. They throw their fists up in despair and wail their lament: "Lord why didst thou forsake us! Have we not had faith in you the way it says in the scriptures?" And the Lord will speak in a gentle voice and say: "I did not forsake thee! I sent you angels in many forms! You ignored them all! They told you to leave as danger approached, but you chose to stay behind!"
#8 - Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:32 AM EDTIf God is a woman, this errand fool in the story really has it coming - saying that he believes in the MAN up there! Boy will she smite him to smithereens for that insolence. We'll all find out about God's gender in a bit over 24 hours (exciting stuff). Unless he (the faithful fool) of course failed to scribble his name on his soon-to-be-bobbing-carcass (he was told to do so). Then we won't find the evidence for his 'being smithereened' or otherwise having demised. You know how hard it is finding a working pen any time of day, forget finding a decent indelible marker when the lights go out and the wind-beaten waves are lapping at your shin? Forensics is going to work overtime again. I would hate that job.
#9 - Sat Sep 13, 2008 1:03 AM EDTI'M A CHRISTAIN AND I BELIEVE IN GOD, BUT:
Some of the comments in the article reminded of the joke about the preacher who was caught in a flood. The joke goes like this:
"With imminent flooding predicted, the preacher advised that he had faith in God and he wasn't going to evacuate because he knew God would protect him."
Sure enough, the next day the flood started, and police drove by the preacher's house and urged him to leave. Once again the preacher said "he'd stay - knowing that God would keep him safe".
That night the flood waters continued to rise, forcing the preacher to the second story of his home. A rescue raft with search lights found the preacher leaning out his second story window, but when they offered to take him to high ground once again he refused to leave, saying God would protect him.
By the next morning, the flood waters had driven the preacher to the roof of his house 0 at which point a helicopter came by and offered to pick him up. Once again, the preacher replied "Go and save others, I believe in God and I know he'll protect me".
Shortly thereafter, another surge of water hit - drowning the preacher and washing his house away.
On reaching heaven, the preacher challenged God and said "I've believed in you my whole life, have preached your gospil, and had faith in you to keep me alive! Why did you let me down!?!"
God replied, "Gee, I sent you the police, a boat, and a helicopter to save you - what more did you want me to do???"
#10 - Sat Sep 13, 2008 2:59 AM EDTBELIEF IN GOD IS A GOOD THING - AS LONG AS ONE REMEMBERS THAT GOD GAVE US INTELLIGENCE AND HE EXPECTS US TO USE IT! (In this case by evacuating BEFORE a major storm hits).
For the rest of the folks who stayed because they wanted to and/or because they think nothing can happen to them - your going to experience the Darwin Principle. If your lucky, you'll survive and learn to to repeat the mistake of staying again!
#11 - Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:08 AM EDTThe real victims are children of stupid people. I hope they are rescued and leave the others to swim for it. The lives of good people will be put on the line for many people with self esteem issues or whatever their problem is. It seems God gives people choices not necessarilynot carte blanc protection.
#12 - Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:19 AM EDTI survived a category four hurricane (Charley) a few years ago, and I didn't even have to worry about water danger because I live on the highest elevation in town in my community. It was still very difficult to survive, but if there had been a water hazard, I know I wouldn't have survived. The problem I have with people living directly on the coast is if they decide to be ignorant, someone else has to risk their life to save their stupid butts.
We can only hope these people survive, and learn that important lesson about Mother Nature: ALWAYS RESPECT THE WEATHER, BECAUSE IF IT COMES AT YOU, YOU CAN EITHER STAND THERE AND LOOK AT IT IN AWE OR GET THE HELL OUT OF THE WAY.
#13 - Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:53 AM EDTThose who choose to defy an evacuation order knowing and expecting that costly rescue efforts will be undertaken on their behalf should be charged. I suggest a flat rate of $5000 levied on each person rescued, added onto their county tax bill, and a lien assessed against any property or future income for nonpayment. A family of four=$20,000.
Why? Because it's a choice and so it is an avoidable cost which will be added to the unavoidable costs to repair infrastructure damage. And it does not touch the cost of loss the life of or injury to any rescuer.
If a parent chooses to keep a child in the danger zone in defiance of an evacuation order, and the child dies then the parent should be charged with involuntary manslaughter. If the child is physically harmed and requires medical attention, then the parent should be charged with child abuse. Why, because they chose to keep the child in a place where it was known that serious physical injury or death was more likely than not and the child does not have a choice...and does not have the intellectual capacity to process the cause-effect and forward projection of the situation that is necessary to make that sort of decision. No different than if I put my kid in the front seat of my car without a seatbelt and then drive onto the expressway in a bad ice storm, put on a blindfold, push the accelerator to the floor, run off the road and the kid is harmed.
#14 - Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:11 AM EDTSurvivors beg for help...
How infuriating. I am a blackhawk pilot from fort hood. Tomorrow, I will be leaving my family, once again, as I have to many times in between deployments of 12 to 15 months to Iraq to preform my real job, to rescue these idiots who decided to ignore a mandatory evacuation order.
I absolutely hate you idiots. You deserve the misery you have brought on yourselves. If you do not have the mental capacity to get yourself and your family out of harms way, you do not need to be here. You are putting people like me at risk, as well as taking my time away from my family that would be well spent since I am leaving again soon for the desert.
How can you not have learned anything from Katrina? How? It boggles my mind.
I believe in survival of the fittest. In this case it is survival of the smartest. If it were up to me, I would leave you to ROT on your rooftops, or under the rubble. Every person who has to be saved in Houston and its surrounding areas, should be billed by the state and federal government for the wages of each person, plus the gas, blade hours, and maintenance required to run what ever piece of equipment that they had to use to do it.
In my case, you would be paying somewhere in the neighborhood of 15 to 20,000 dollars for a rooftop rescue from a blackhawk.
The sad thing is, I know that folks like this will not learn from mistakes of others. There will be another hurricane, and another 300,000 lazy fools who will stay, and another massive rescue effort to save them from their own stupidity.
#15 - Sat Sep 13, 2008 1:14 PM EDTAs much as I agree about the idiocy of not evacuating, I don't understand this nasty comment. Leaving people to rot on rooftops? You sound like a spiteful child. I mean, honestly. :/
Spiteful child? or a guy who spent 2 months in new orleans cleaning up the mess because of the same type of retards who are now floating around in houston?
You can only deal with so much jackassery before you get "spiteful" about it.
So cry about my attitude all you want, I have all the right in the world to my opinion and to voice it, and yes, I will even come get a whiner like you off your rooftop, as much as it would pain me because thats my F-ing job.
This is awesome!! Am I the only person on here who absolutely loves the death and destruction caused by these magnificent storms? Prayers are not going to help those idiots that decided to stay despite being giving a MANDATORY EVACUATION ORDER. People have amazingly short memories . . . Katrina was just 3 years ago, killed nearly 3000 people, and yet people still refused to leave. May death be cruel, harsh, and painful for them! I'm hoping the death toll surpasses even that of the 1900 Galveston hurricane!!
PS – Don't waste your time replying to my post . . . I could not care any less about what you think of MY OPINION, and you have ZERO chance of changing it by what you think . . . Besides, I'm certainly not going to waste my time reading it.
#16 - Sat Sep 13, 2008 1:58 PM EDTUH60DRIVER--------I agree - agree -agree----Your saying out loud what most of us are thinking---may sound cruel but true. God Bless You.
#17 - Sat Sep 13, 2008 2:10 PM EDTUH60DRIVER-- I Agree-Agree-Agree---You are saying out loud what most people are thinking. God Bless You,-- Keep Safe.--My Prayers Are With You.
#18 - Sat Sep 13, 2008 2:23 PM EDTI am ok about folks that refuse to evacuate. They either enjoy facing danger or care more about their stuff and not their safety. But, I do feel sorry for the people that are forced to dangerous areas to rescue these people.
#19 - Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:19 PM EDTuh60driver-I am curious why you chose to name Houston and New Orleans when you refer to retards. From what I have seen the retards that you refer to during Hurricane Ike live in other areas besides Houston and New Orleans. A retard, as you state, is a retard even if he or she lives in the country or the city and makes an unwise decision. So when the situation involves city or urban folk and they do not heed the warnings they are retards but when it's good ol country folk make poor decisions, as we see with Hurricane Ike, we over look it and still go back to talking about the people in New Orleans and Houston?! That is typical. The people that you fail to address that live outside of New Orleans and Houston are really not very smart based upon the fact that over the last few years we have experienced major disasters and seen tragedy and they still chose to stay put, even with the past history of that particular area.
#20 - Sat Sep 13, 2008 8:05 PM EDTWell, because Houston and New Orleans were the last two places where retards decided to show us all just how retarded they were by sitting through a hurricane, and I had to suffer from it. Now I know that there are millions of other retards residing throughout america, however, I am not about to list every freaking one of them, and I think you are being a bit silly if you were offended at the fact that I only named those two places.
Stephen-523582 - I have no opinion regarding some of the other stuff
that you said but I do agree with your point that if one was ignorant
of the effects of hurricanes prior to Charley and Katrina that is
understandable but after one has seen or experienced the effects of
these major disasters and still chooses to stay they are not very
intelligent. These were probably some of the same people who were
commenting and criticizing the Katrina victims.Ignorance has no
boundaries. It's everywhere.
#21 - Sat Sep 13, 2008 8:17 PM EDTI don't want my tax dollars going to build these idiots a new house. and again. and again.
THIS WILL NOT BE THE LAST STORM
IDIOTS BEWARE!!!
#22 - Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:00 PM EDTFaith in God? They got the warning, GET OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! God can't help you if you dont help yourself. Like they say in the Middle East, Tie your camel....
#23 - Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:00 PM EDTto:uh60driver: well, Thank you for serving our Country in such a fine manner,today you gave me a new way to look at black hawk helicopter pilots(how sad),i bet you made your mama real proud with those hate filled remarks,may i offer you a leave of absence from your job,for you need it, you are of no help to the peaple who need you,American's,taxpayers,your bosses,peaple who pray for you everyday,for you and your families safety.
i hope you are just frustrated and having a bad day,and this passes,because you have shamed your profession.
#24 - Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:36 PM EDTIf you think one persons opinion would shame the entire profession, you my friend are extremely small minded.
You are entitled to your opinion, as I am mine. Does it matter to me whether you like it or not? NOPE. I tell you what does matter to me, my time, cause noone can ever give that back.
Whats next on the list of precious things that these morons have wasted. Money.
Your money in fact. You mentioned tax payers money. Who the hell do you think pays for the $2,000 per tank of JP8 refuel that has to happen every 2 hours I fly around? You do. How many hours on how many helicopters do you think have been flown for Ike rescues? How about Katrina? More than you could imagine. Lets talk about insurance rates, and why they keep going up. Because people are F-ing stupid. There are so many things about this story that frustrate me, you are right, I am frustrated. But dont ever tell me I am not entitled to voice my opinion about it, because dammit, I work my ass off, to ensure you are entitled to yours in this democracy we live in, and I for sure will excersize the right to voice mine.
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